There are different concepts of child pornography.
  • There are those who engage in child sex/torture, perhaps film it, and subsequently kill the child to cover it up.
    CRIME

  • There are those who engage in child sex and film it in order to distribute it and make money, since the government has made it illegal to distribute it.
    CRIME

  • There are those who merely have a stash of child pornography pictures (child in some sexual act).
    DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME

  • There are those who engage in virtual child sex imagery using computer generated graphics (CGI).
    DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME

  • There are those who draw what the state considers child pornography (very vague description).
    DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME

My view is that if all you have are pictures, no matter how bizzare, it should be covered under the First Amendment. To me, a failure to distinguish between people who look at these dirty pictures and people who commit contact offenses lacks the nuance and proportionality the law demands. No one should ever be prosecuted, fined or incarcerated for the possession of or looking at any pictures. Ever. Why is a picture of naked children perhaps engaging in sex worse than pictures of a dead child, a mutiliated child?

The concern is that looking at a naked child will encourage people to want to go out and molest a child. (I don't necessarily agree with this viewpoint, but it's the argument that's there.) Therefore, if you produce a naked picture of a child (regardless of who that child actually is), you're encouraging pedophilia. This is the same argument used to criminalize the production of "virtual child porn". Why are parents seemingly immune from having their young children running naked in a house?

On the issue of sexting, where teens send nude pictures of themselves to their friends, criminal charges against minors, under laws that were meant to protect them from adults, is the wrong way to address the issue of teens exploring their sexuality. Law enforcement's reaction effectively turns victims into perpetrators. This does not stop the stupid people in law enforcement and the courts from prosecuting anyone.

Most states and the federal government have made it illegal to possess pictures of child pornography, but it seems OK to possess pictures of dead mutilated babies or fetuses. It's OK to possess pictures of people having sex with cattle, goats and sheep but not children. One can utilize google images to quickly find tons of images.

We usually read stories in the news of someone arrested with a charge of child pornography because he (s)he had a stash (usually thousands) of pictures that offends the state. How does the state know that all these pictures constitute child pornography? They could claim that the checksums of these files match checksums of a known database of child porn images, but checksums seem unreliable to me. Does someone look at each and every picture and determine whether it is child pornography? What is the job description of this person? Is there a job opening here?

If the article states that some of the images are horrid, despicable, unconscienable, etc, we can conclude that someone viewed them to make that assessment. These people may be police officers or more likely, members of the Middlesex DA's office.

The defendant is charged with possession and viewing child pornography but in his/her defense, so should the police and/or Middlesex DA. The Middlesex DA's office is the final repository of the imagery collected in Middlesex County. One wonders who has access to their treasure trove of child porn.

Of course, if you say that they are horrid or horrific, then you claim to not see it as sexually stimulating child pornography. I'd like to see each member of the Middlesex DA staff tested by showing them pictures of child pornography to see how they react to it. That would be precious. Is that a banana in their pocket or are they just happy to see these children.

How the hell can a completely fictional account of a crime, such as having sex with someone underaged, be criminal? It boggles my fragile little mind, it really does. Of course, the concept of large invisible sky creatures also boggles my fragile little mind.

Some questions come to mind.

  • Where is the stash of child pornography being found in and around Middlesex County over time?
  • Who controls the stash?
  • Who has access to the stash?
  • Who provides access to the stash?
  • Is the stash on line and hackable?

One repeatedly hears from various DAs and judges that anyone merely viewing child pornography is abusing or victimizing the children all over again. This kind of statement can only come from really stupid people. Using this argument, watching a video of man being killed is like killing him again and again.

Another really stupid statement you hear from DAs and judges is that those who view child pornography are likely to commit a crime. One can come to the conclusion that these DAs and judges are retarded and need help. One can reach the conclusion that a person window shopping at a store is more likely to steal from the store.

It just frustrates me to hear these kind of statements from what we believe are well educated individuals. Apparently their legal education did not provide them with common sense or enlighten them on logic and science. It just made them more belligerent.

Any district attorney who would pursue a case like that needs to be fired and never allowed to practice law, or any other profession that requires having a brain again.

I am always reminded that our legal system has had a long proud tradition of hanging, burning and torturing heretics and witches in the interest of administering justice. What more can be said about our legal system.

If you intentionally falsely accuse someone of a crime then the punishment for you should be the same as for the crime that you accused them of.

Justice could only be done if the penalties for falsely reporting somebody for a sex crime is equal to the crime the unjustly accused individual would receive had he been convicted

Good news for you retarded Catholic judges and DAs in Massachusetts. In 2014, the Vatican raised the age of consent from 12 to 18 under pressure from western powers. You can no longer fuck 12 year olds.

Assorted Massachusetts Laws on Child Pornography

Chapter 272: Crimes Against Chastity, Morality, Decency and Good Order

Section 28 Matter harmful to minors, dissemination; possession; defenses

Section 28C Information or petition against obscene books; order of notice to show cause; notice of order; interlocutory adjudication; defense

Section 29 Dissemination or possession of obscene matter; punishment; defense

Section 29A Posing or exhibiting child in state of nudity or sexual conduct; punishment

Section 30 Injunctive relief against dissemination of obscene matter; jurisdiction; procedures; appeal

Section 30D Dissemination of visual material of child in state of nudity or sexual conduct; injunction; jurisdiction

Section 31 Definitions


Children are "ignorant" when they don't know what we want them to know.
Children are "innocent" when they don't know what we don't want them to know.
Corruption of a minor is telling them something they want to know but should not know.

In due time, they will outlaw these pedophile jokes.

My girlfriend called me a pedophile the other day. I told her that was a pretty big word for a nine year old to use.

I was out with my girlfriend the other day, people kept giving us dirty looks and making comments just cause I'm 44 and she's 19. Totally ruined our 10 year anniversary.

I was having sex with my girlfriend and she insisted on role-playing as a fourteen year old. I thought this was terrible. I just looked at her and said "Slow down you'll be fourteen in a few of years"

I like my women the way I like my whiskey. Twelve years old.

Predatory perverted pedophile priests prey on prepubescent pupils.

Pedophiles may be bad people...but at least they drive slow through the school zones


What would be the most awkward thing to whisper in your partner's ear during sex?

This is the way your sister liked it

Wow...this IS different with a live person.

You smell like your mother.

You smell like your father.

Your little brother taught me this trick. What do you think?

For clarification: Suppose a teen commits murder. It's not unusual for courts to try this teen as an adult. Now, I'm no lawyer but I think it's because they assume (s)he knew what (s)he was doing. Okay, I can buy that. However, consider statutory rape - a 30 year old hooks up with a 14 year old. Why don't the courts say, "Well this 14 year old girl knew what she was doing. She's not dumb. We'll view her as an adult, and hey what do ya know, it's not illegal for adults to have sex," instead of viewing her as a victim (or a child) who is incapable of thinking.


The Harm In Sexting

Child Porn Laws Used Against Kids Who Photograph Themselves

Why are teens who commit murders tried as adults, but when a teen has sex with someone who's 30, courts act like the teen had no idea what he/she was doing?

In this case, the argument is that the production of child pornography is not only a crime against a person (the child), but a crime against society. The concern is that looking at a naked child will encourage people to want to go out and molest a child. (I don't necessarily agree with this viewpoint, but it's the argument that's there.) Therefore, if you produce a naked picture of a child (regardless of who that child actually is), you're encouraging pedophilia. This is the same argument used to criminalize the production of "virtual child porn".

Any district attorney who would pursue a case like that needs to be fired and never allowed to practice law, or any other profession that requires having a brain again.

Child Porn Laws Used Against Kids Who Photograph Themselves

By Kim Zetter, 01.15.09, 9:50 AM

Privacy advocates say prosecutors are misusing child pornography laws by turning them against the very people they are meant to protect.

The accusation comes following a raft of recent child pornography cases against juveniles accused of photographing themselves in the nude.

This week, prosecutors in Greensburg, Pennsylvania charged six teens ranging in age from 14 to 17 with creating, distributing and possessing child pornography, after three girls were found to have taken photos of themselves in the nude or partially nude and e-mailed them to friends, including three boys who are among the defendants.

The case is only one of the latest in a spate of similar prosecutions and investigations. In Florida, officials similarly charged a 16-year-old girl and her 17-year-old boyfriend with producing, directing or promoting child porn after they photographed themselves having sex. Neither of the teens shared the images with anyone else.

The issue of teenagers distributing self-made pornography isn't new, but its prevalence and consequences have been exacerbated by advances in technology. Thirty years ago a teen who wanted to take nude self-portraits had to develop the film at a lab, and distribution was limited by the number of copies made from the negative. Now a camera-phone and internet connection are enough to send the image around the world in an instant, whether or not the sender intended it to reach that far.

Critics say the criminal charges against minors, under laws that were meant to protect them from adults, is the wrong way to address the issue of teens exploring their sexuality. Law enforcement's reaction effectively turns victims into perpetrators, they say. "The problem is that the child porn laws were really designed for a situation where an adult abuses a minor by forcing that minor ... psychologically as well as physically ... into taking these pictures," said Mark Rasch, a former federal cybercrime prosecutor. "But when the person takes the picture herself or consents to the picture being taken, it turns the whole statute on its head."

In the Pennsylvania case, a school official seized the phone of one of the boys after he was caught using it during school hours in violation of a school rule, according to local police Capt. George Seranko. The official found the picture on the phone, and after some interrogation, discovered that two other girls had also e-mailed photos of themselves in the nude to friends. That's when the school called police, who obtained search warrants to seize the phones and examine them. Police showed the images to the local district attorney, who recommended they bring charges.

Seranko said the images "weren't just breasts; they showed female anatomy."

Authorities argue that bringing child porn charges against teens is designed to educate them about the dangers of creating and distributing such images, which could fall into the hands of commercial pornographers, pedophiles or others who might want to harm or exploit them.

But Parry Aftab, founder and director of WiredSafety, which educates kids about internet safety, says the prosecutions are desperate acts by frustrated law enforcement officials, and they don't achieve the desired effect.

"Prosecutors don't know what to do, so they are reaching out in the way that prosecutors do," she said.

Rasch agrees. "You take teenagers, alcohol and cell phone cameras and put them in a room together and you've got a prescription for disaster," he said. "But you shouldn't be making felons out of it."

Rasch supports legislation to exempt any minor from prosecution for creating an image of himself or herself and distributing it to friends.

The recipient, too, should be exempt, though Rasch sees no problem with charging a boyfriend or friend if they distribute the image further without the girl's consent. Even then, though, he thinks there's room for debate about the consequences.

"If my son or daughter were doing this kind of stuff, I'd have a serious discussion with them about the consequences, but I don't know that it would help anybody to throw them in jail," he said.

Rasch said teens don't realize that one unintentional consequence of self-made child porn is that it can sometimes provide authorities with evidence of other crimes. He cites the case of Genarlow Wilson in Georgia who was convicted of having consensual oral sex with a 15-year-old girl when he was 17 based on a videotape of his encounter with the girl at a party. Wilson was sentenced to 10 years in prison and required to register as a sex offender, though he was released after serving two years following an appeal to the state supreme court.

There are no known cases involving federal charges against a minor for child porn: the recent cases were brought under state laws by local prosecutors, usually in juvenile court. Since juvenile cases are not part of the public record, Rasch says it's not known what kinds of sentences have resulted from such cases. But he said generally juveniles who commit crimes get convicted of delinquency, not the actual crime they commit.

In the recent Pennsylvania case, Capt. Seranko said the teens are likely to get community service if convicted.

"Their records won't be scarred for life," he said.

Rasch points out that people who take or share nude self-portraits when they're minors could be prosecuted as adults and face harsher penalties if they're still in possession of the images when they reach the age of 18.

With regard to the claim that prosecution of minors will deter other teens from engaging in the same activity, Aftab says this isn't the case, because teens don't identify with the concept of criminal charges. She points to the famous case of several teenage girls in Florida last year who were arrested for beating up another girl.

"They were laughing on the way to jail and worrying about if their hair will look good on camera," said Aftab. "They didn't understand that jail is jail."

In the case of teens charged with child pornography, they simply don't see a difference between posting provocative pictures on MySpace and sending nude photos to friends.

"These kids are now seeing stuff on MySpace and other places online where other kids are posing in sexual poses in the nude performing real or mock sex, and to them it's just their 15 megabytes of fame. They think it's the norm," she said.

Aftab says the solution is counseling and education. The former should enlist mental health experts, and the latter should involve teen educators, since teens don't listen to adults when it comes to regulating their behavior.

She also said teens who engage in this kind of activity should be punished with a consequence that really matters - having their cell phone taken away or losing internet or other privileges.

"That's real," Aftab said. "It's quantifiable and it's within their reach."



Consequences of Sexting Should Not Be Ignored

Linda Jane Chalat Pro

This time of year, most middle school and high school students are facing the challenges of re-entering the social fabric of school life. While many students do so with only the occasional bout of angst, some succumb to peer pressure and make poor decisions which may have lasting consequences.

One particularly concerning behavior is that of "sexting" - the sharing of nude photos, usually by cellphone. But "sexting" may also be sent on any media-sharing device or technology - including email and the Web. For many youngsters, the practice is a private act with no serious ramifications, but teens need to understand that there may be serious legal and psychological consequences.

Common scenarios are students responding to pressure in the form of cyber bullying or coaxing from a boyfriend or girlfriend. Sometimes it is simply impulsive behavior, flirting, or even blackmail.

Research conducted by The National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy last year revealed that 20 per cent of teens in the United States admit that they have sent or posted online lewd photos or video of themselves. According to the national study, most teenagers were sending the explicit messages to friends. There have been reports of students losing jobs or college scholarships as a result of being identified in sexually-suggestive pictures that have appeared on the internet. But even more disturbing is the threat of criminal prosecution.

Laws vary from state to state, each jurisdiction enforces the law differently, and the applicable laws were written before sexting was even possible. With sexting, the same minor can be both perpetrator and victim when producing and sending photos of him or herself - a situation which leads to wide differences in prosecution.

The message to youngsters should be a clear one: do not take or send nude or sexually suggestive photos of yourself or anyone else. If you do, even if the photos are of you or you pass along a photo taken by someone else, you could be charged with producing or distributing child pornography. If you keep the photos on your phone or computer, you could be charged with possession. If they go to someone in another state, a very easy step with internet access, it is a federal felony.

And the threat is not an idle one. Two Florida teenagers were prosecuted for taking sexually explicit photos of themselves and "distributing" them in violation of child-pornography laws. And earlier this year, a Florida state appeals court ruled 2-1 to uphold their conviction. The two took more than 100 digital photos of themselves naked and engaged in unspecified 'sexual behavior.' The female was 16 and the male 17 at the time of the photography sessions. The two sent the photos from a computer at her house to his personal email address. Neither teen showed the photographs to anyone else. Yet they were both charged with "producing, directing or promoting" child pornography, and he was charged with an extra count of possession of child pornography.

The case establishes that in Florida it is legal for two minors to have sex, but "they're criminals if they document it." Criminals, and yet - as the appeals court itself wrote - "children ... not mature enough to make rational decisions concerning all the possible negative implications of producing these videos." The appeals court reasoned that Florida law requires the state to prevent the production and distribution of photos like these as a form of child exploitation, regardless of whether their producers were minors or adults.

Last year, six high-school students in Pennsylvania were arrested on child pornography charges. Three were girls who allegedly took pictures of themselves, were charged with manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography. The other three were boys from the same school who were found with the explicit photos on their mobile phones by police, and were charged with possession of child pornography. However, the American Civil Liberties Union brought suit in federal court against the Pennsylvania district attorney who threatened to charge the three girls, and the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals said the prosecutor could not charge the girls merely for appearing in a photograph without evidence that they had engaged in distributing it.

In 2008, an Ohio cheer leading coach, age 19, was convicted of indecency charges after taking a topless photo of herself and a 15-year-old girl. And in Texas, a 13-year-old boy was arrested on child pornography charges after receiving a nude photo of a fellow student on his mobile phone. In 2007 girls at Castle Rock Middle School in Colorado took naked pictures of themselves on their cellphones and then sent them to their boyfriends. The boys then forwarded the pictures to their friends. Dozens of students at the school, which includes seventh and eighth grades, receive d the photos. The Internet Crimes Against Children team of Castle Rock police investigated the incident, but no charges were reported. Cases have also been prosecuted in Connecticut and Virginia in 2005 and in India and New York in 2004.

What can parents do? Talk to your child before a problem develops. Emphasize that the internet is not a private place for four concrete reasons:

  • Searchability

    anyone can search and probably find any image once it goes online;

  • Persistence

    anything that is placed on the internet essentially never disappears, webpages are copied and cached so ask your teen is this really an image you want your grandchildren to come across?

  • Replicability

    once you distribute it, someone will share it - in emails, IMs, profiles, on file-sharing networks, etc.

  • Invisible audience

    you don't know who you're sharing it with; even if your page is private, you don't know what "friends" will do with it.

If your children have sent any nude pictures of themselves, stop the conduct immediately. Explain that they are at risk of being charged with producing and distributing child pornography. If they have received a nude photo, make sure they do not send it to anyone else.

Some experts advise that "sexting" should be reported to your local police, but consider that, while intending to protect your child, you could incriminate another, and possibly your own child. A better approach may be to talk to a lawyer after discussing the matter first with the youngsters and other parents. If malice or criminal intent is involved, you may wish to seek legal advice as to whether criminal charges are likely, and how best to proceed when contacting the police or other authorities in your jurisdiction.

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